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hello everybody and welcome once again to the unlearned podcast.
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I'm your host, ruth abigail aka ra what's up, friends?
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It's your girl, jaquita and this is the podcast that is helping you gain the courage to change your mind so that you yes, you can experience more freedom all right now all right, hello, listen, we are out here rocking and rolling.
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Okay Me and Ruth have had a great week really just enjoying all of the things, enjoying the studio.
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This has been great.
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Listen we out here.
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This is just so has been so much fun to be able to give a different experience, you know, and, and and to look beep into my best friend's eyes and and realize we, we are one, we are connected.
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We are unified, we're in this together.
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So Queda what are we talking about today?
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Listen, all right.
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If you joined us for the last segment, okay, we discussed about what to do to prepare for the storm.
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If you have not watched that episode yet, make sure you go hit that you want to go do that Because we gave you an emergency toolkit, okay, with all of the things that you need to be in place before the storm.
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Okay.
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So today we're going to move from the before to the during.
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Okay, we need to talk about what do I do if I am now in a place where I am in a crisis moment, where something has shifted, something has pivoted, something has knocked me.
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You know what I heard somebody say one time with the old folks say you know, my cheese is sliding off my cracker.
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All right, your cheese.
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The first time I heard that I was like huh if you cheat right off that crib my baby.
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Oh wait, a little uneasy.
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Wow On the edge.
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You know we really want to talk about that today.
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I really don't know where to go from there, that is.
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I've never heard that before.
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You've never heard that before.
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Maybe it's a Greenville upstate thing, because I've definitely heard that my cheese is starting to slide off my cracker right.
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So, listen, but if you're in that moment and you know that you are in the, you know, because before we talked about what to do, how to anticipate the shift or the storm coming right, now we want to discuss yeah, what do you do once you're in the moment right, and you feel things shifting and changing and you're in the middle of it, all right.
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So, ruth Abigail, what's one of your first points?
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What do we need to do?
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So one of the things that we have to, I would say, one of the things we have to unlearn when we're in this moment is to not pretend about where you really are.
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My Lord Right.
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We got to unlearn that pretending is the way to go.
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We you can't uh sanitize your situation my lord okay, and so you want to recognize, you want to admit where you are, like it is okay, you have to be real about it.
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You, you don't want to try to color it up, and, especially for those of us who are people of faith, we like to use this Jesus language to color stuff up.
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Right, you know everything's going to be all right, the Lord.
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You know the Lord is my, you know I can do all things.
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Right, all of that is true and it's OK to admit it's tough right now and I need to say that out loud, without trying to quickly, trying to say but, but God, but God, but God.
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I mean, I mean like it's OK, because I think that God there's plenty of moments in Scripture you can point to where God is with people in storms yeah, and he doesn't.
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He doesn doesn't, he doesn't try, he doesn't.
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He's not expecting you to pretend like there isn't a storm there.
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Yeah, right, but there is one.
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So I think the first thing is stop pretending.
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Yeah.
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Be real about where you are.
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God is not.
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God is not thrown off by your storm.
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You know I okay.
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I have two examples and one.
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I have to give this because it's in my head.
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For those of you who saw, why did I get married?
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And it was when Janet Jackson's character, Patty, right and I think her name was Patricia, but she went by Patty sometimes and she was like perfect Patty.
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well, guess what?
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Perfect Patty messed up, right, but she had been living so long pretending like she wasn't in a storm.
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Yes, you know, she was pretending like she didn't feel all the things about her son passing away and pretending that her husband wasn't grieving.
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And pretending she had carried that pretend life so long that, when she finally got to her breaking point, y'all saw she had that little tendril.
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We were reminded that she Michael Jackson's sister, so she had that little tendril hanging in front of her face, you know.
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And so I think that it's so important that you are acknowledging like that this moment that I am is bigger than what I can handle right now.
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That's right.
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And you have to also remind yourself.
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I remember and I've said this in a previous episode that I knew I was in a big shift in my life and it wasn't necessarily a crisis moment, but it was a moment that was bigger than me.
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And I remember I was standing and I was getting some work done on my house to prepare for the big moment.
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And I remember I was in the Lowe's because I was buying like deck wood and all this stuff.
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I was in the mall in the lows and I told the Lord.
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I said, lord, I'm nervous.
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And the Lord said those are your feelings, they're not mine.
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And basically what he was saying was you're nervous about this moment, but I've already seen you through it, yeah, you know.
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And so I had to admit to myself yeah, that like, hey, this, this is kind of knocking me off my cracker a little bit.
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Right, this is knocking me off.
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This moment is huge and I'm not quite sure what all to do with it yet.
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But I also had to remind myself in that moment when I recognized where I was and was honest about where I was.
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That's when you can receive assurance.
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You can't be assured of nothing, of something you won't admit, that you won't admit Exactly.
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Yeah, people trying to comfort you and you're like I ain't got nothing.
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I'm good, I'm good Baby, yes, you do, yes, you do.
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Be up front and be real about it.
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Be real about it.
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Be real about it.
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Yeah, okay.
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So what else?
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Up front and be real about it, be real about it.
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Be real about it.
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Yeah, okay.
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So what else?
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Okay, listen, all right.
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And I think this is important because, as millennials, I think we've seen a lot.
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You know, middle adults, listen, the people, millennials, we have seen it all at this point.
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You know we had the young millennials out here doing the cinnamon challenge.
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Y, the cinnamon challenge.
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Y'all remember that.
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Y'all was out here.
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Y'all was out here eating cinnamon.
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Remember that, burning your tongues up and such right.
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We had a water bucket challenge.
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Yeah, one chip.
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You know, I just feel like we've we've seen so many extremes.
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We've also seen so many extremes in society.
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You know we've been through um depressions, recessions whatever you want to call it, we haven't been through depressions.
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We have been through a couple recessions.
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Whatever you want to call it, we haven't been through depressions.
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We have been through a couple of recessions.
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Y'all tell me, okay, y'all tell me, okay, y'all tell me.
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But yeah, you know, we've been.
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We've seen our country, our world, go through so many different changes that a lot of times, our advice to each other is okay, this is how you get out of this moment.
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All right, you just got an X, y and Z and then push through it and you're going to be all right.
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And we, we encourage and encourage and push and push, when really, what I love about the younger generation, like the generations up under us, is that they take their moments, yeah, right, and they realize sometimes too much.
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So it's going to take time.
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Yeah, it is going to take time.
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Your process is is not, uh, it's not going to be immediate, because what's being worked out is not the situation.
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What's being worked out is what's inside of you that is necessary to endure the next season.
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Correct, the crisis is not about the moment.
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The crisis is about the mission.
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Yeah, and when we make it about the moment and not about what inside of us needs to be perfected in order to get to the next stage, we will try to rush through it.
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Yeah, and I'm just going to be honest.
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You know there have been a couple of times in my life when I knew it was time for a new job.
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Right, I'm not a person, and I don't think most millennials are like we changed the game for my parents because I ain't standing on this job for 50 years you know my granddaddy retired from s-c-e-n-g, if you know.
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You know my metro people, right, he retired from s-c-e-n-g and he gave them people like 40, 45 years.
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Wow, you know they got the watch.
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You know they got the plaques with their names on it.
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We're not aiming for that, no more.
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Good, you know, we can make our own plaques with their names on it.
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We're not aiming for that no more.
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No, I'm good, we can make our own plaques on camera.
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What you talking about?
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What you talking about.
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I'll make my own certificate.
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There you go.
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Good job, jaquita.
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Yes, sir, you are appreciated, but what you're doing in your life is going to take a moment.
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It's going to take a process for you to be able to get from the point that you're at to the point that you're getting to, and there you don't know everything you need to know yet you haven't met all the people you need to meet, yet you have.
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You don't have all the skills you need to have yet you don't have all the resources that you need.
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Yet it is gone.
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We are not going to be able to microwave ourselves through a crisis.
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That's good, now, that's really good.
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You're gonna have to let it cook, yeah, right, and you're gonna have to if you want, if you want the best result from it, sorry, if you want the best result from it, right?
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Yeah, microwave food is never going to be as good as food that is prepared, food that is prepped and prepared and cooked and served.
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Yes, that's what's happening in your life, right?
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now, yeah, and I think that one thing that's hard to unlearn about time is that it's out of our control.
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Time is not something you control.
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You don't have that and you can't dictate how long something's going to be, and so that's why it's so important, like we were saying at the last episode, that, to be prepared with some things, because you're you might have to go the long haul with this.
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You may it may not be on your on the timetable.
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You, you would prefer.
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Yeah right um, we, we have our own timetables.
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We know it's like, hey, okay, this is going on, and then you know, and at this time, I expect this to be over, right, and or I believe, and we, again, we, we put I think we use faith in a irresponsible way A lot of times, right, right, Like, I believe this, therefore, and that's not always the case, and so I think I think we just have to be honest about that and know and trust that God's timing is the best timing, even when it's and particularly when it's not your timing.
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You just don't know because, like you said, you don't know what the future brings.
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You don't know how long you're going to need to marinate in certain things, and so we need to be aware that time is not in our control, and so, even in the middle of a crisis, when you are I'm struggling, it is and it is difficult, but it's but also know that it's not going to make it better.
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By rushing your, rushing the process, you won't't make it better.
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So you just have to lean in and lean into the best of your ability, understanding that time continues to move.
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It continues to progress.
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Um, one of the things that I like remembering about time it helps me is that, no matter what today won't won't, you won't ever experience today again, never.
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And so a lot of times on your worst days, that's helpful to know.
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I won't ever be here again.
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I don't know where I'll be tomorrow, but I know this ain't going to happen again because tomorrow's always different.
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That's good, right, and so, even if it means you're different, like you said so I think that there's that's that time thing is so important.
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You don't control it.
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You know, and I think, just one more point about time is that what, what giving it time allows it to do, it allows you to reset and reframe what you're hoping for and what your vision is, so that what you, what you envision for your life, matches what God has already planned for your life.
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At least, that's what it's been for me, and that's not something I did willingly, which is sometimes the point of the crisis.
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That was something that I had to come into the realization of is that a lot of times, our crisis moment is to shift and turn us to go a different way.
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Correct, you get what I'm saying and so I think, a lot of times when we're in that moment, you spend so much time I'm about to talk about a dream I had.
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You spend so much time trying to go the way that you had planned to go and you're fighting, you're kicking against the prick for my Bible readers, right?
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You're trying, you're still trying to live the life that you had before, when the Lord is simply trying to turn you and say but actually, what I had for you is greater than that.
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But you have to be able to house the vision, and so your crisis moment again feels like.
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It feels like a moment of conflict.
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It feels like it's deflating something in you, but that's that's most of the time, because there's something better that God is trying to get you to, and you have to allow him to show you the areas that he's trying to grow your capacity in.
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And that's what takes time.
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It takes time to change your mind.
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Man.
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It takes sometimes years to change your mind.
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Like that's real Cause we're stubborn and we like the things we like when we like them and the way we like them and we're used to certain things and we've got comfortable in certain ways.
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So, yes, it takes time, and I love that you said that, because changing your mind is the is the game changer.
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That's what then?
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That's when things begin to change.
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Yeah, right, um, so the next thing, uh, uh, that that is important.
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Um, I think we think, when, when there's a crisis and it's we have been we kind of been saying about, you know, recognizing, being honest about where you are and giving yourself time.
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There is an element, though, of of healthy faith.
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Right, you got to continue to honestly believe that you will win in the end.
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You just don't necessarily dictate that end, yeah right, but I I believe that this will be better.
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I just can't say win all the time yeah and I think, um, that's that is an important thing to to unlearn.
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You can be confident in your victory at the end and also admit I don't know when that's going to be those truths can happen at the same time, and so there's a book called Good to Great by Jim Collins.
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I do have it, do you?
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You told me to get it.
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I did.
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Did you read it Some of it?
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Okay, listen, right now I'm only halfway, but I did get through this chapter.
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Um, it's a book.
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It's a book about companies, yeah right, but this is a particular principle that I think um is.
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It can easily be applied to personal.
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He calls it the stockholm, the stockholm syndrome.
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Is it syndrome principle principle yeah, yeah, yeah stock, oh, stockdale.
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No, I'm wrong, it's stockdale, my fault.
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Stockholm principle is a thing that is not what I'm talking about.
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Okay, stockdale principle yes okay.
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And so um Stockdale, he was, uh, in the army, he was a prisoner of war.
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He was in a camp for eight years and when he got out, so Jim Collins, the author, he interviewed him and one of the things that he said was who were the ones that didn't make it out?
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And his answer was Stockdale's answer was the optimists.
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He said the optimists didn't make it out.
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And that really surprised Jim Collins.
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He said that's interesting.
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Why wouldn't an optimist make it out?
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He said because they were always the collins, as he was.
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He said that's interesting.
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Why wouldn't an optimist make it out?
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he said because they were always the ones that said we're going to be out by christmas wow and we never were oh so now your hope it just keeps getting shattered and shattered and shattered because you keep telling yourself something you can't guarantee all right.
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And so he said I, the reason he credits the reason is because I believed I would be out, but I was honest that I don't know when.
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Yeah, but, I, kept believing that I'm gonna be out, but that's gonna be.
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So you know I'm saying, but the ones, who, who, who, like.
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We're gonna be out for Christmas, y'all, it's gonna be okay.
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We're gonna be out by New Year's, it's gonna be okay.
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We're gonna be out by Easter, it's gonna be okay, and it wasn't okay and they crumbled but so many times you know.
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This reminds me of right how, every year, when you know, before you were married, you know every year, every year, ruth Abigail would tell us 2019 guys, this is our year right, and then we would get to the end of it and we'd be like disappointing again.
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I ain't gonna lie Right, disappointing and and I think what that causes you to do one, when you are focused more on more on the um deliverance out of a thing versus the deliverance out of a mindset.
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Yes, I think you have to set your mind on.
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The goal is not to get to the next place.
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The goal is to be whole, 100% Right.
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And I think that a lot of times we are pouring from cups that have holes in it.
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But because you're pouring, you think you're okay, yeah, right.
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And because God has allowed you to see the evidence of your poor, you believe that.
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Oh, the evidence, the production of my work makes me okay.
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But God is looking and saying there's some things that if I can get them to a moment to themselves, I can really begin to work on Right, and I know.
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For me, what's funny is is that that Stockdale paradox was actually one of the things that I had to, I had to, I had to work on because, I'm an optimist.
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Y'all know that.
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All right, I believe.
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All right I got the faith that a thing is going to work out in the way that I envisioned it.
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There you go, right.
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And I tell people like you know, to be an optimist sometimes is to uh, is to live a life of disappointment.
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Yeah, I see that, I say I.
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But if you continue down that path, you begin to expect disappointment instead of expecting change.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
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And so, instead of embracing change, you start embracing disappointment, and that changes the way that you approach life.
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Yeah, when I expect, when I have hope, but I'm like this may not work out, so I'm just going to prepare for things to not work out Right, instead of preparing for what if it actually does work, exactly Right, like what if in the crisis, in the moment of crisis, because that's what happens a lot of times, especially as middle adults friends Hello, my 30s and 40s, ok, especially us A lot of times, what gets us stuck in a moment is when you feel like you've gotten to a point where things don't work anymore.
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Right.